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New York filmmaker Dante Tomaselli can make a great horror film on a shoestring. His first film, 1999's "Desecration," found fans around the world for its terrifying look at Catholicism. His follow up, 2003's "Horror," was an even greater success, garnering reviews in Variety and an international DVD release. With just two films to his name, Tomaselli is definitely a director to watch out for. We spoke to Dante the same day that "Horror" arrived on DVD in the United States: May 27, 2003.
How did "Horror" come about?
I starting writing it right around the end of 1999, when there was all that end-of-the-world talk going on. I wanted to harness that feeling...that we all could be predestined for a horrible, violent death. The idea that the threat of violence can strike at any moment. I knew that Horror had to be hallucinatory, surreal...kind of a continuation of my first film, Desecration. I wasn't through exploring that universe, visually and emotionally.
"Horror" seems like "Desecration" in that it's a religious horror movie. But this one isn't Catholic so much as Protestant. Why does religion play such a major role in your horror films?
I guess it has something to do with how I grew up, my background being Italian American and having two very religious grandmothers. But, really...I just think organized religion is a very scary thing. It gives me a feeling of paranoia. One group against another, thinking the other one is wrong and they are better, holier. Religion causes wars. It has a dark force that can't be denied. Also, as you know, my cousin, Alfred Sole, directed "Alice, Sweet Alice," the infamous Catholic slasher. I saw it at a very early age and it is forever imbedded in my psyche. "Desecration" was specific. It was a Catholic hallucination. "Horror" can be any religion. I was going for a perverse puritanical vibe.
"Horror" looks like it was shot in 16 mm, which gives it that old-school look from the 1980s -- like "Evil Dead". It was also beautifully photographed. What can you tell us about the importance of using film when you make a horror film (some people are shooting direct to video) and what do you think about digital film? I know "Session 9" was shot on digital film and it actually seemed to work pretty well.
Well, "Horror" was shot on Super 16 mm film. Thanks yeah, I agree, it does give it that old-school early 80s look -- that's what I wanted -- color saturated and vivid yet somehow faded with a little bit of grain. I will only shoot movies on film -- only. If you want to go for a painterly look -- you shoot on film. Video, even the best video, is thin. I'd prefer grain over pixels any day. You're right, though, I heard the digital videography in "Session 9" was outstanding. I still never saw the movie; I have to check it out. Maybe I'm being too hard on Video. It's great for shorts. But it's just my gut instinct -- to shoot film while doing a feature.
How did you hook up with the Amazing Kreskin? Did he really hypnotize members of the cast? The scene with the star turning into a board looked real.
Kreskin actually contacted me. I was all ready to go with this other actor named Wayne Bolton. He's a cripple, very withered-looking, with...some kind of wizard-like quality to him, very interesting, almost whimsical...yet sinister, intimidating. You'll probably see him in one of my future films. I thought, well there's my Reverend Salo. The guy came all the way from Virginia to NYC to audition for the role and his reading was excellent, very spooky. He wanted the part badly. I thought, perfect. Then, right before the shoot, I got a letter from Kreskin's agent, asking for Kreskin to be considered for the role of Grace's grandfather. Apparently, they read a casting notice. Kreskin and I met, bonded, and he got the role. He really did hypnotize people on the set during certain scenes. It was wild. That sequence with Danny Lopes - was real.
Did he hypnotize you personally?
Oh no, no. I wouldn't want that.
My favorite scene in the movie was the zombie sequence. Do you plan to ever make a full-fledged zombie film? I think the horror community could use some more of those.
Yeah, I'd love to do an all-out zombie film someday. Definitely. I have nothing against using gore and repulsive latex effects...some directors feel above that kind of thing. Don't get me wrong I understand the virtues of suggestion...not showing too much but different films serve different purposes...I would love to make a nonstop zombie splatter movie some time. I think it would be very frightening. I'd go all-out. Some of the films that terrified me most growing up -- were zombie movies. Even though it's not scary when I watch it now, umm, "Horror Express" was a big influence. The red-eyed Jesus-like zombie gave me so many nightmares. I saw it on TV when I was like five...And of course, "Night of the Living Dead." I think zombie films should strike a nerve now more than ever -- with biological terror on the rise. What if plagues become marketed? Something like the Ebola Virus, where you begin to bleed from your eyes and mouth and quickly disintegrate -- that's real and happening right now somewhere as we speak. Very chilling.
"Horror" seems to be getting even more attention than "Desecration" did. It even got reviewed in Variety. Why so much interest this time around?
I really don't know. I think "Horror" is a better film, personally. It has a faster pace. There's more to grab onto. But then there are some people who like "Desecration" better. So, I don't know. Timing - I guess. The world is in pain...maybe it's a good time for a weird fear film about all-encompassing doom. It's...like a disease of the senses – "Horror" is a serum that slowly is injected into your subconscious (laughs). It's ambient filmmaking...told through a series of dreams, flashbacks and hallucinations. I was going for something completely out-there...not censoring myself...allowing my imagination to run wild. And while I wanted the main character, Grace - real and raw - I knew that everything else around her would have to be stylized and ambiguous...like a mirage. Her universe, everything she knows...it's slowly disintegrating. I think maybe a lot of people can relate to that emotion. The confusion of being alive. "Horror"'s a film about madness, being trapped in your childhood.
So here's an obvious question: Are you a religious man? Your films definitely revolve around Christianity, and the most terrifying characters are the ones who are seemingly Christian on the outside (i.e., nuns, preachers, etc.) -- but
really worship Satan.
I'm more interested in hypocrisy, the idea of evil cloaked in religion. I am no theologian, that's for sure. So, am I religious? No. Never really was - I always questioned it, was skeptical about it, at the same time I am in awe of its universal power. Spiritual...yes...I think I am...I try to be. I think when I was growing up I was let down by different aspects of Catholicism...It seemed so sadomasochistic, some of the rituals...the idea of going to confession. I don't go to church anymore. There was also a questionable teacher-priest in my past, a Brother Nicolas-like character, but I won't go into that now.
Speaking of the horrors of religion, do you see 9/11 impacting your new films -- or other horror films that are out there?
Definitely. The world has forever changed. In numerology - 11 - is a master number. I think it was the day the gates of Hell opened...Something pure evil is looming.
What can you tell us about "Inferno"?
I'll direct the film and compose the soundtrack. It's a supernatural chiller. "Inferno" is about an emotionally troubled medium investigating a series of spontaneous human combustion -- people around him mysteriously exploding into flames. It's kind of like "Jacob's Ladder", very hypnotic...a real interior journey. I'd call it an occult horror film.
"Inferno" has mythological undertones. I'm fascinated by mediums who channel the dead and I've always been interested in fire...and fire being a symbol for eternal damnation...I realize that Dario Argento had a film out called "Inferno", which I thought was amazing. But this would be my "Inferno". I didn't even come up with the name, "Inferno", the writers did...It was originally called "Spontaneous Combustion"..but that's a Tobe Hopper movie. The writers caught onto that and said, "Well, then let's call it 'Inferno.'" And I said, "Well, that's a Dario Argento movie! I love Argento and won't Argento fans cry blasphemy?!" And they said, "There can be two, and yours would be Dante Tomaselli's 'Inferno'...a totally different movie." In a sense, calling this film, "Inferno", is my homage to Argento...because I think he's a genius and respect him so much. But mainly, the name just fits perfectly. "Inferno". Definitely don't expect a storyline like Dario Argento's "Inferno". It's completely original. The writers, Peter and Bruce, never even saw the Argento movie or knew it existed.
Are the investors shy about really gutwrenching horror?
You mean investors for "Satan's Playground"? Yes, they want to inject comedy. Make it lighter. Less fatalistic. All I need is $350K, and 100% creative control.
I mean, only I know how to do assemble a movie with that kind of low budget and somehow make it look and sound like a million bucks. Someone who hasn't done it before...they can't realistically tell me what to do. Basically, I just need someone with $350, 000 and a belief in me. I know "Satan's Playground" has a chance at being the Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre of this generation. I just know it. Just let me make it. The right investor, who believes in me, will fall in place. All I need is $350, 000 and that person becomes an Executive Producer. I just need somebody, preferably a horror fan, to put the money in the bank and say, "Ok, let's do it." I've had a few false alarms. I'm realistic - I'll agree to having no say about the cuts in the theatrical version. I understand that. Hopefully there will be a director's cut DVD, whatever. But I do see this one, "Satan's Playground", as being in the theaters. It will be so scary, so relentless...what "The Blair Witch Project" could have been - if filmed differently...well...no...not really...that's not a good comparison -- but you know, the feeling of being lost in the woods. The raw terror. I'd even be into shooting "Satan's Playground" for only $250, 000 - do it on Super 16 mm and then blow it up for the theatrical version. Things are pending. I'll make "Satan's Playground", like like I made "Desecration" and "Horror"...somehow.
Is it hard to find investors out there for a really gutsy horror film? Are most just interested in another Scream or Ring?
It's all about doing a clone of the last big hit. Yes, they want do something like "Scream" where it's very ironic and clever with little jokes sprinkled about...Something hip. I had three different producers say, "Kids like comedy in their movies." I was like, "NO THEY DON'T!" True horror fans want something subversive, something genuinely disturbing. It's a shame the people in power, the Hollywood money people, don't understand that. They just don't get it. That's why the best horror films will always come from the independents.
Who wrote the script for "Inferno"? Why did you agree to accept it?
Well, the co-writer is Peter Jordan, a very well known parapsychologist. You might have seen him on TV, being interviewed on 20/20 or Unsolved Mysteries or some other show. He's written articles in Omni Magazine. Peter Jordan is considered an expert in the field of the paranormal. He tours and lectures...For me -- ideas come from my imagination. His ideas come from being a parapsychologist, concrete investigations into the supernatural...He brings a legitimacy to the strange tale. The other writer, Bruce Sakow,
is a screenwriting professor at School of Visual Arts. He also co-wrote Friday
the 13th part 4. Bruce is incredibly imaginative...a spectacular writer. The
script blew me away when I read it this past Easter. I'm very excited to be
working with these guys. They contacted me after watching the trailer for
"Horror" online. Bruce emailed me, got my address and sent the script. After
they both saw "Horror", it was confirmed: I was the director/composer for the
project. It will be the first time I'll be directing a movie without me actually
writing it. It'll be a fresh experience. We're raising the funds for the film
right now.
What's it about?
It's very creepy. There's a moral conflict at the core, which reveals itself as the film goes on. A medium, whose specialty is creating bridges between the living and the dead...ends up channeling a victim of spontaneous human combustion. The medium, named Jeff, has carved a successful career for himself uniting sad people with their deceased loved ones. It's his job. During a channeling session, Jeff, who is going through his own emotional problems, inadvertently unleashes something...an evil force...imprisoned within a mysterious glowing fireball...It seems to have a purpose...Think "Phantasm"...that deadly flying orb...but different. Eventually, this fireball threatens to burn those around him. The entity is calling its victims to Hell...or is it? What is it? What's going on? I don't want to give away too much -- but the film builds to a shocking climax. "Inferno" is enigmatic...with undercurrents of "The Exorcist" and "Don't Look Now", very atmospheric...At the core there's a trauma -- a spiritual crisis...It's a puzzle film. The ambiance reminds me a little bit of "The Changeling"...kind of elegant and brooding. The opposite of "Satan's Playground", which will be frenzied, straightforward, very gory...and created for hard-core horror fans, to please them. I want both films to be very frightening.
Is Victoria Gotti cameo-ing in "Satan's Playground"? How did that come about?
I read and enjoyed her column in the NY Post. One day, I just sent her an email -- because her address is at the end of her column...and she got back to me. We became friends online and I asked her if she'd be in my new movie. She gave me her home address to mail out a DVD of "Horror". I sent her a copy of the "Satan's Playground" screenplay with her small cameo outlined. She read it, watched "Horror" and basically said, "I'll do it. Just let me know when and where you're shooting."
The film marks a horror comeback, of course, for Felissa Rose and Ellen Sandweiss? How did you get them involved in the project?
Very naturally. I met Felissa on "Horror", as you know, and we are now extremely close. And Ellen...I contacted initially online -- through her Ladies of the Evil Dead website. I wanted her to play Felissa's sister in the film. I thought she'd be perfect. After communicating through email and then the phone, I met Ellen this past October at a Chiller Convention. Felissa was there too. We all met at the Cafe Bistro in East Rutherford New Jersey. As we sat during lunch, I glanced back and forth between Felissa and Ellen and got more and more excited...they are sisters. This is so surreal. It was meant to be. We are all looking forward to shooting "Satan's Playground" this year...This fall -- we better! Michael Berryman from Wes Craven's "The Hills Have Eyes" will also have a staring role. I'll try with all my might to make "Satan's Playground" as scary as possible.
What do you think of the state of horror today? I'm curious if you saw
"Identity", "Frailty", "Ginger Snaps", and "Dog Soldiers".
Frailty...I thought that was disturbing -- that disturbed me -- more than anything I've seen in 15 years. It's not a film I'd want to watch again. It's odd though, some people around me whose opinions I trust, found the film to be dull. I don't agree. For me, it was a very claustrophobic emotional experience.
"Ginger Snaps" was very entertaining- I was impressed. I didn't see
"Dog Soldiers" yet or "Identity."
Finally, any advice out there for fans hoping to break into the horror movie biz?
You just have to stick to it; you can make it happen. You really can. Immerse yourself. It can be depressing and heartbreaking...but when it's good -- it's intoxicating. The images in your mind...TRANSLATE THEM! Paint, draw, write, take pictures, shoot film...Don't listen to others when they say you're weird. It's good to be weird, if that's what you are. Stick with your fantasy of becoming a horror director and follow through...
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